weve all heard it.
a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.
bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.
Of course they don't listen.In their minds they think you are going to destroy their chanses of pettin pandas in eternity. Why on earth should they listen to facts? Facts doesn't promise eternal life. Facts just scare the sh*t out of them. Thats the core of cognitive dissonance.
This is important for all "apostates" to understand
i see my wife being pulled into the org a little again, by some good people and kindness.
she grew up a very happy jw, and to leave is very hard for her.
but she has opened the pandoras box of her brain and can't shut it.. we were discussing blood a couple days ago.
In fact...have a look in Genesis. What was the first thing old Noah did? He did bring on the fire...and God smelled the good smells from the grill..altar....:-D
weve all heard it.
a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.
bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.
Nope SAHS, in that case if would be good tellinb our relatives and friends in the borg TTATT, and you know it is not. You will never reach a cult member with facts. That's tyhe case with family, and that's the case with JW-posters here. It's the same kind of cognitive dissonance. Confrontation always makes a cultist defent the cult teachings. For a cult meber his life depends on defending those dogma. One must get him out of the "cult self" to communicate with him.
i have been doing a lot of research on the bible and its roots so to speak and its becoming clearer that the jews like other races took gods and stories from others and made them their own.
its also become clear that many of the books were written later then stated, like daniel probably written about a hundred years before christ and some of it maybe even after.
but what i don't get is the prophecies.
I remember 1 st of january 1976........why not 1st o January 2018?? :-)
it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?
like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.
i need honest answers to this.
What I don't get is people like serial killers will have parents that still love them but smoke one cig, get drunk once, swear once and family and friends you have had all your life will just leave you. That really annoys me. Why is that?"
This is the difference betrween real love and affection compared to conditional. Conditional love is not real love..it's manipulation.
Go get some real friends outside the Borg.......the ones inside are just conditional friends.
it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?
like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.
i need honest answers to this.
If you are planning to fade, move away to another city.
Why not apply for university? You will get new friends and new things to do.
any objective reading of the gospels makes it plain that jesus believed his parousia would happen within the lifetime of his generation.. his followers believed in his imminent return until the day of their deaths.. his false prophecy damaged the lives of his disciples in a similar way to that done by the lies of modern cults like the watchtower.
peter and others walked out on their wives, children and businesses to follow him around palestine.
jesus taught them to put their families and other normal concerns in second place to their task of spreading his message - which turned out to be false.. the question is what he was up to?.
We have some indications from the earliest gospel, Mark 3: 21 When his family [ b ] heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”
where do they come up with this stuff?.
this is a topic on 'the other site'.
i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.
So, active JWs are discussing this...that's excellent. I would guess a lot of them will be apsotates in a little while.
it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?
like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.
i need honest answers to this.
I think there is a thread "The art of fading" at this site. TAke a look at it Panthers. It was written some years ago, but it's still actual and important.
it's with regards to disfellowshipping.. is disfellowshipping a legal procedure?
like is there something i can use to prevent this from happening to me if it does happen.. no jokes about me being a bad little boy.
i need honest answers to this.
If you can move away fading (without being DFed) your family still can talk to you.
When you have been inactive for some time you will be more free. I have been inactive for 25 years now. Nobody's bothering me.
